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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Social Sites Don&#8217;t Deliver Big Ad Gains&#8217; &#8211; now here&#8217;s my big ads</title>
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		<title>By: Avar Pentel</title>
		<link>http://cathyma.com/2008/02/social-sites-dont-deliver-big-ad-gains-now-heres-my-big-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5691</link>
		<dc:creator>Avar Pentel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to show fallowing image in the end of my last comment, but without much success, as I see:)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/avar_pentel/2264639726/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to show fallowing image in the end of my last comment, but without much success, as I see:)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/avar_pentel/2264639726/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/avar_pentel/2264639726/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Avar Pentel</title>
		<link>http://cathyma.com/2008/02/social-sites-dont-deliver-big-ad-gains-now-heres-my-big-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5690</link>
		<dc:creator>Avar Pentel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that these scary opportunities - despite possible downsides - can  lead us finally to new era in customer-marketer-manufacturer relations (at least in the context of web). 


There&#039;s no more such thing as an Average Joe, we are all individuals with specific needs, walking a different path.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/avar_pentel/2264639726/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Happy Valentine&#039;s Day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that these scary opportunities &#8211; despite possible downsides &#8211; can  lead us finally to new era in customer-marketer-manufacturer relations (at least in the context of web). </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no more such thing as an Average Joe, we are all individuals with specific needs, walking a different path.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/avar_pentel/2264639726/" rel="nofollow"></a><br />
Happy Valentine&#8217;s Day!</p>
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		<title>By: cathyma</title>
		<link>http://cathyma.com/2008/02/social-sites-dont-deliver-big-ad-gains-now-heres-my-big-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5686</link>
		<dc:creator>cathyma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah in that regard I think both google search and amazon are freaking scary - just when i thought i am immune to all these I actually click those ads rather often.  Contextual relevancy!

PS: Fogg&#039;s book is a pretty good one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah in that regard I think both google search and amazon are freaking scary &#8211; just when i thought i am immune to all these I actually click those ads rather often.  Contextual relevancy!</p>
<p>PS: Fogg&#8217;s book is a pretty good one!</p>
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		<title>By: Avar Pentel</title>
		<link>http://cathyma.com/2008/02/social-sites-dont-deliver-big-ad-gains-now-heres-my-big-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5681</link>
		<dc:creator>Avar Pentel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banner Blindness work actually in same way outside the web too. Think about newspapers, billboards – how much we actually pay attention on ads? I agree with Jakob Nielsen what is concerning banners, but in other hand, web is a good ground for more effective advertisement methods.

To make conventional banner work, the first goal is attract user attention. But if this first goal is established, then there is long, long way to establish ultimate goal – i.e. to make user pay something, believe something, or trust someone. Cleavage definitely does job for first goal but hardly for last one.

I believe that we can skip establishing first goal altogether and instead of getting Your attention, we can monitor You, we learn about Your habits and in the right moment we make You an appealing offer.

We can track mouse movements to guess what You are looking (there is
significant correlation between mouse and eye movements), we can store
every action, keystroke and click, navigation patterns etc.
 
Think about online shop, say bookstore. And say You want to pay Fogg&#039;s
&quot;Persuasive Technology: Using Computers to Change What We Think and
Do&quot;, but You find it too costly. So you come back again and again and
always look for this particular book. This behaviour of Yours is very
easily detectable by system and maybe just in the right moment
system makes You discount or otherwise good offer. 

&lt;b&gt;In the very same time, when old fashion advertisers fighting for your attention, I silently listen Your story…&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banner Blindness work actually in same way outside the web too. Think about newspapers, billboards – how much we actually pay attention on ads? I agree with Jakob Nielsen what is concerning banners, but in other hand, web is a good ground for more effective advertisement methods.</p>
<p>To make conventional banner work, the first goal is attract user attention. But if this first goal is established, then there is long, long way to establish ultimate goal – i.e. to make user pay something, believe something, or trust someone. Cleavage definitely does job for first goal but hardly for last one.</p>
<p>I believe that we can skip establishing first goal altogether and instead of getting Your attention, we can monitor You, we learn about Your habits and in the right moment we make You an appealing offer.</p>
<p>We can track mouse movements to guess what You are looking (there is<br />
significant correlation between mouse and eye movements), we can store<br />
every action, keystroke and click, navigation patterns etc.</p>
<p>Think about online shop, say bookstore. And say You want to pay Fogg&#8217;s<br />
&#8220;Persuasive Technology: Using Computers to Change What We Think and<br />
Do&#8221;, but You find it too costly. So you come back again and again and<br />
always look for this particular book. This behaviour of Yours is very<br />
easily detectable by system and maybe just in the right moment<br />
system makes You discount or otherwise good offer. </p>
<p><b>In the very same time, when old fashion advertisers fighting for your attention, I silently listen Your story…</b></p>
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		<title>By: cathyma</title>
		<link>http://cathyma.com/2008/02/social-sites-dont-deliver-big-ad-gains-now-heres-my-big-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5680</link>
		<dc:creator>cathyma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avar: oh boy - yeah that&#039;s a good question (and thanks for the clarification lol)

Mukund: my traffic surges all of a sudden... mmmm if only this small pix of cleavage can get me here?

Okay it goes back to Avar&#039;s point though.

*doh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avar: oh boy &#8211; yeah that&#8217;s a good question (and thanks for the clarification lol)</p>
<p>Mukund: my traffic surges all of a sudden&#8230; mmmm if only this small pix of cleavage can get me here?</p>
<p>Okay it goes back to Avar&#8217;s point though.</p>
<p>*doh!</p>
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		<title>By: Mukund Mohan</title>
		<link>http://cathyma.com/2008/02/social-sites-dont-deliver-big-ad-gains-now-heres-my-big-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5679</link>
		<dc:creator>Mukund Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>points to the end - sex sells, and it always will :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>points to the end &#8211; sex sells, and it always will :)</p>
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		<title>By: Avar Pentel</title>
		<link>http://cathyma.com/2008/02/social-sites-dont-deliver-big-ad-gains-now-heres-my-big-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5678</link>
		<dc:creator>Avar Pentel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;So we just need a lot of cleavage then&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

:))

But what if every free part on the site is covered with cleavages, then how can I find Yours (I mean Your research based kick-a** ad).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So we just need a lot of cleavage then&#8221;</i></p>
<p>:))</p>
<p>But what if every free part on the site is covered with cleavages, then how can I find Yours (I mean Your research based kick-a** ad).</p>
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